tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10378966.post6546149448634240313..comments2023-10-10T05:20:11.192-04:00Comments on Elementary, My Dear, or Far From It: John Hattie's IdeasJennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04725549451973770515noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10378966.post-45976799409246976112013-04-22T19:44:22.638-04:002013-04-22T19:44:22.638-04:00Philip, one of our district-level administrators i...Philip, one of our district-level administrators is a huge fan. We're a huge district so I don't know how widely felt his influence is, but certainly in our area it's strong.<br /><br />Science Goddess, thank you for passing that on! I'm sorry I didn't see Hattie in SF that year. Like all data, I think it's not too hard to make this work for whatever you believe. That's not Hattie's fault. I have to keep reminding myself of that!<br /><br />Karyn, I find the book challenging to read - it's not my typical professional reading. But I'm really glad I'm reading it. Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04725549451973770515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10378966.post-36570908116967015092013-04-22T00:28:57.246-04:002013-04-22T00:28:57.246-04:00Three or four years since reading his book, I keep...Three or four years since reading his book, I keep coming back to it. Fishpond.co.nz has it for $50NZ. I didn't know Hattie's influence had spread to the US.Karynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13501868462442196722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10378966.post-32337503444921897402013-04-20T22:18:28.792-04:002013-04-20T22:18:28.792-04:00I saw Hattie present a couple of years ago (post i...I saw Hattie present a couple of years ago (post is <a href="http://blog.whatitslikeontheinside.com/2010/12/muddying-bathwaters.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>)...and I seem to remember <a href="http://alwaysformative.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Jason</a>sitting in on his presentation when we were all at the ASCD conference in SF. (Don't know if he blogged about that one.)<br /><br />One of the most important things to remember about his work---and he even points this out himself---is that you really have to dig down into the research. For example, the meta-analysis around decreasing class size shows that overall, it isn't particularly effective. However, if you poke around in the sources used to develop that meta-analysis, you'll find individual studies that show the opposite. Hattie urges people to look for those and get the details about what it is that does work. My hunch, however, is that most schools won't take that step.<br /><br />I remember when I saw him present that I keep thinking, "Holy s*** is this guy going to be unpopular." But he is gaining ground. If you poke around in what he's done in Australia, though, you'll find a lot of pissed off teachers. :)The Science Goddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02846516022505481326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10378966.post-21238670084476117212013-04-20T17:50:45.281-04:002013-04-20T17:50:45.281-04:00Thanks for sharing these. I'm interested to re...Thanks for sharing these. I'm interested to read your thoughts as you go through the book, too. I'm curious as to why he's so influential in your district. Any thoughts on that?Philip Cummingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16234985390839246865noreply@blogger.com